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December 28, 2004
Intelligent Design and Falsifiability
Hugh Hewitt apparently kicked off a discussion in the blogosphere concerning Intelligent Design. One selection of Rand Simberg's response to Hugh, in particular, is getting coverage over at the Volokh Conspiracy:
How science works is by putting forth theories that are disprovable, not ones that are provable. When all other theories have been disproven, those still standing are the ones adopted by most scientists. ID is not a scientific theory, because it fails the test of being disprovable (or to be more precise, non-falsifiable), right out of the box. If Hugh [Hewitt] doesn't believe this, then let him postulate an experiment that one could perform, even in thought, that would show it to be false.
Arguments like this make the hair on the back of my neck stand on end, for a number of reasons.
Consider falsifiability as a general principle of securing knowledge, or, more modestly, some condition of epistemic benefit (Popperians may not like the use of ‘knowledge’). Call this modest condition EB. Suppose someone (not Mr. Simberg) put forth the following propostion, F: “Theories must be falsifiable to secure EB.” The difficulty with F is that it appears to be self-defeating. F is a theory of knowledge or epistemic benefit itself, so F applies to itself; i.e. “F must be falsifiable to secure EB.” And just how is F falsifiable? Is it falsifiable by empirical means? It doesn’t seem so. What test would falsify F?
Not only does it seem difficult to falsify F, but whatever test we come up with, when stated in relation to F, would also have to be falsifiable. In other words, it looks like we’re in for an infinite regress that can never secure EB, if F is true.
So falsifiability is not a general test for knowledge (or epistemic benefit). We can have knowledge of things without falsification. I bring this up because pretty much what I’ve outlined above was posited for verification as a criterion of meaning on par with scientific claims. Similarly, Popper was trying to firm up the demarcation between science and "pseudoscience" -- but even on its own terms, the discipline of science cannot be the sole beacon of truth or knowledge.
To be clear, I’m not claiming that Mr. Simberg was asserting something like proposition F above. However, I think a lot of the demarcation arguments which survive today -- even when framed more modestly -- still get a lot of unfounded authority from throwing about terms like falsification. Scientists and science enthusiasts need to remember the lesson of fatally flawed movements like logical positivism so that various claims outside of the typical purview of science are not marginalized. We have, for example, a tremendous need to recognize the possibility of ethical (and perhaps even religious) knowledge, if science is to be properly directed toward doing good (e.g. curing cancer) rather than evil (e.g. the Tuskegee or Nazi experiments).
*Further posts on this subject: ID & Falsifiability #2, #3, #4.
Posted by Steve | December 28, 2004 in Current Affairs, Philosophy, Religion, Science | Permalink
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I'm not sure your analysis applies unless falsifiability is the only test of whether something is good. In science, it's not the only test.
Hypotheses that are tested and not falsified, are used to make predictions. That's where the real value comes.
Posted by: Ed Darrell | Jun 27, 2005 12:28:29 AM
You're always welcome here, Ed, to stop by and comment, but sometimes I have to wonder if you've read the posts you comment on. The "unless" condition you refer to above was explicitly mentioned, and that falsification is "not the only test," is exactly what I'm arguing. Falsification is often used in exactly that sense, as a litmus test for science (and knowledge, implicitly) as were verification, etc.
Take care,
Steve
Posted by: Steve | Jun 29, 2005 9:41:22 AM
You're right, I didn't pick up on the subtleties of your post. And now that I do, I don't understand why you think this is even an issue.
Neither intelligent design nor creationism can pass the falsifiability test, and both fail other tests of whether they are science. Evolution passes all of them.
Was that your point?
If it's not falsifiable, it's a good bet it's not science. Yes, we can know things that aren't falsifiable, but that's not necessarily science knowledge.
What does any of that have to do with intelligent design?
Posted by: Ed Darrell | Jun 30, 2005 9:51:58 PM
Ed,
Thanks again for your comments. As to the point of the post, I think the epistemic benefits of seeing that science does not have the monopoly on truth are significant enough on their own. But I'm tempted, first, to say re-read the post, and second, suggest that you move on to the related posts indicated near the bottom. I think you will find some additional commentary more to the subject of ID and falsification. I'm planning to say more on it in the future, as time allows, but for now, hopefully I've provided some food for thought.
Neither intelligent design nor creationism can pass the falsifiability test, and both fail other tests of whether they are science. Evolution passes all of them.
If you want to argue for this, Ed, you'll have to define your terms and provide some clear cases for consideration.
Take care,
Steve
Posted by: Steve | Jul 5, 2005 8:27:05 AM
Let's use the terms the U.S. courts use -- they're verifiable, they've passed muster, and lay people and lawyers can understand them.
You won't like them, of course, because they virtually guarantee that intelligent design won't get into a classroom unless some scientist actually does work using intelligent design, in a laboratory, and gets favorable results.
But it's a good set of definitions. Have you read the decision in McLean v. Arkansas? That's what you're going to have to overcome -- a definition of "science" that includes pragmatic value and real research.
Posted by: Ed Darrell | Sep 10, 2005 10:49:57 PM
Pretty much everybody agrees that the definition of science in the McLean case is horribly wrong.
Posted by: Macht | Sep 11, 2005 4:18:11 PM
Yes, I'm aware of the McLean standards. If you'd care to advance one or more of them here, I'll be happy to interact with you.
Take care,
Steve
Posted by: Steve | Sep 15, 2005 8:51:23 AM
No one has seriously made any run against the standards of science used in McLean. I think one can make a case that falsifiability is not hard and fast -- but there is no decision in the U.S. which takes issue with any of them.
At present, it's still solid law. It is likely to remain that way.
Posted by: Ed Darrell | Sep 18, 2005 1:25:54 AM
No one has seriously made any run against the standards of science used in McLeanExcept philosophers of science. I doubt very much that they'll hold up a second time, if such a case arises.
Steve
Posted by: Steve | Sep 18, 2005 7:11:08 PM
Not even philosophers of science. There have been a half dozen cases since the Arkansas trial -- philosophers are all dozing? No, it's just that they have nothing more to say.
McLean is the law.
Posted by: Ed Darrell | Sep 23, 2005 1:28:21 AM
