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January 21, 2005
Cartoons: Don't Ask, Don't Tell
Those nutty Christians are at it again. They are attacking the sexuality of poor SpongeBob and are completely paranoid about the effect of Bob on their children. An innocent little video that finally forged a truce among those warring children's characters is being touted as pro-gay propaganda as it warms the hearts of children nationwide with its message of tolerance and non-hate. Soon they will be holding a large bonfire burning all of SpongeBob's videos as well as all FedEx (the Satanic Corporation sponsoring this atrocity) packages straight back to hell.
At least what you would think is the case regarding this NYTimes article about the foundation I posted about here. Blogs such as Volokh, Instapundit, and 3Martini are having fun at Dr. Dobson's comments and the implication that SpongeBob is gay. Unfortunately, all of these posts avoid the real issue.
First, at the risk of being painfully obvious, the cartoon characters that I let my children watch do not have sex. Unlike the characters in the Toy Story movies, cartoon do not come to life after the humans leave the room. For that reason, SpongeBob holding hands with another character is not pro-gay any more than Dora and Boots or Blue and Joe hanging out is a statement in favor of Peter Singer's interesting view of animal love.
However, I don't believe that is what Dr. Dobson was saying. He raises an question regarding the tolerance pledge that is on the We Are Family Foundation website, on the same page as the article about the children's video. How are 3 to 5 year old children to respect (Niles Roger's words) those with a different "sexual identity"? The fact that the pledge is on the website (and the website is certainly included in the promotional materials for the video) should be explained. Instead of an explanation, it is far easier to characterize these Christian leaders as paranoid, and recommend medication. The NYTimes and the bloggers above all fell for the bait.
Furthermore, why does the We Are Family Foundation provide a link to the Human Rights Campaign, which is a pro-same sex marriage group? Is this an implication that anyone who does not accept the traditional view of marriage is intolerant? Does the "celebration of our human community" necessarily include the worldview that marriage is a man-made institution that we can change at will? Is opposition to same sex marriage an example of hate?
These are important questions, and not ones that should be dismissed so quickly. When Falwell made is comments about Tinky-Winky I cringed. This is different, and the dismissal of Dobson's view is quite unfortunate.
Update: Say it ain't so, Joe! Joe Carter adds this:
While I'm admittedly suspicious of the motives behind the "We are Family" video, the attack on Spongebob Squarepants by Dr. James Dobson is laughably misguided. I have a great deal of respect for Dr. Dobson but conservatives – and Christian conservatives in particular – need to stop attacking fictional characters.
I would agree if and only if Dr. Dobson actually used SpongeBob's supposedly "gay" behavior to attack him as a homosexual. However, without knowing what Dobson actually said (and even Hugh has not seen a transcript), I'm wondering if he merely brought up SpongeBob as an example of the many characters that were included in that video. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt until we know for sure.
By the way, I haven't noticed anyone else pointing out the link to Human Rights Campaign on the We Are Family Foundation website. I believe this link clearly casts suspicion regarding the motives of this video.
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Comments
I have yet to see a full disclosure of Dr. Dobson's remarks. It is unfortunate that he chose to make his remarks without, admitedly, seeing the video or any of the documents himself. He was merely briefed on it by staff. When will we evengelicals learn to prepare ourselves in advance for such response and prepare our remarks appropriately.
The reason why no one has addressed the issues you have is probably that Dr. Dobson did not clearly differntiate between what is on the video versus what is on the website. News channels all over are showing the entire video to show there is no evidence of a homosexual agenda on the video, because there isn't. The underlying agenda is clear if you go to the website, but yours is the first blog I have seen address that and no news service so far has.
We need to hit MSNBC and others with this information. They won't be any happier about being taken in by this story after all that has happened lately. We can spend time talking about it among ourselves to no purpose or we can e-mail the news sources with what you and others have discovered.
Posted by: biblemike | Jan 21, 2005 10:44:32 PM
Yaay for you--we Christians need to not do dumb things, but we also need to give each other a chance before we start disclaiming and mocking.
Posted by: David Scott | Jan 22, 2005 3:43:47 AM
Serge,
Thank You for the level headed response to the situation. Biblemike makes a great point about disseminating information to the sources that need to hear it. I would be interested in seeing what exactly Dr. Dobson said.
Posted by: Colby | Jan 23, 2005 10:13:00 AM
What the liberal media fails to realize is that the video in question makes 2 separate references to the Foundation, including a clip from the character "Mouse" from PBS's "Between the Lions" which apparently has found the Foundation's website on his computer.
The Foundation, itself, beyond just the "Tolerance Pledge" has at least SIX different references (though well hidden) to homosexuality, sexual identity, or sexual orientation in its site's materials, mostly in suggested lesson plans (from previous campaigns) aimed at school-aged children.
The actual lesson plans that will be accompanying the video are not publicly posted anywhere for review, so no one knows what the exact package will contain (Though MSNBC supposedly has a copy).
My website's discussion board has research showing at least SEVEN references on WAFF's website as well as a sample letter to school administrators who might be showing the video or other pro-gay material in the classroom.
Research: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exgaydiscussionboard/message/13428
Letter: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exgaydiscussionboard/message/13456
--Alan Levering, Director & Founder, NCXDS Ex-Gay Internet Christian Ministries
Web: http://geocities.com/exgaylinks
Discussion Board: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exgaydiscussionboard
Posted by: Alan Levering | Jan 23, 2005 3:59:09 PM
Thanks for stopping by, Alan. I hope you'll return to contribute when similar issues come up in the future.
Steve
Posted by: Steve | Jan 24, 2005 11:41:27 AM
"Blogs such as Volokh, Instapundit, and 3Martini are having fun at Dr. Dobson's comments and the implication that SpongeBob is gay. Unfortunately, all of these posts avoid the real issue."
Please do not link to my blog if you intend to misrepresent me. I do not "have fun at...the implication that SpongeBob is gay." I address the "real issue" in depth, that Dobson is upset about SpongeBob being used to promote *tolerance*. I also provide both the link to and the text of the We Are Family tolerance pledge.
-Seamus, 3martini
Posted by: seamus | Jan 27, 2005 7:04:14 PM
Hi Seamus, welcome to Imago Dei
Please do not link to my blog if you intend to misrepresent me. I do not "have fun at...the implication that SpongeBob is gay." I address the "real issue" in depth, that Dobson is upset about SpongeBob being used to promote *tolerance*. I also provide both the link to and the text of the We Are Family tolerance pledge.
One of the purposes of a link is to allow readers to read for themselves the entire post as opposed to a small section that can be misrepresented. In particular, the statement of mine above referred to this quote from your post:
Yes, cable TV's most popular character and the star of 2004's funniest movie is finally outing himself, Teletubby-style, by co-starring in a pro-tolerance video for kids.
I thought that quote and your description of Dobson as a "mullah" was clearly having fun at Dobson and implying he was "outting" SpongeBob, which he wasn't. I do not believe you were misrepresented, but if you wish to explain further I would be glad to read your reasoning.
Serge
Posted by: Serge | Jan 27, 2005 9:09:54 PM
